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Greg



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Is what my friend said true? Reply with quote

In the new Guitarist does John 5 say that Guthrie is an unknown amazing Shredder!!?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, there is an article about 15 other shredders you should here if you like John 5.

John 5 doesn't mention Guthrie in the interview that I recall. He does mention fender telecasters quite a bit, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankus wrote:
No, there is an article about 15 other shredders you should here if you like John 5.

John 5 doesn't mention Guthrie in the interview that I recall. He does mention fender telecasters quite a bit, though.


So who were some of the 15 other shredders?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll edit this post and add them when I get home Wink

iirc bumblefoot was amongst them..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got them yet Frankus? Question
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it could be considered a complimentary thing, but would some of these other guitarists be happy to be named as "shredders"?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the album and have gave it a few spins. He's a very good and interesting player, but his shred (fast and technical) playing is somewhat generic and his country playing lacks conviction to my ears. I like his approach to writing, arrangements and sounds, but his lines and harmonic sensibilities don't really grab me. I'm sure some others will dig him more for other reasons. And I don't see the need to say one's better than the other. But you all know who I'd prefer! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will wrote:
I know it could be considered a complimentary thing, but would some of these other guitarists be happy to be named as "shredders"?

Smile


I know that the term "shred" and "shredder" is much maligned and for a good reason, but what other term can we use to describe highly technical playing that includes blindlingly fast speed? "Fusion" isn't all that good of a word either. So many potential fans may get turned off when we describe Guthrie's music and playing as "shred" and "fusion". I think we need to come up with a new term for describing what someone like Guthrie does, but that's a tough one. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexkhan wrote:
Will wrote:
I know it could be considered a complimentary thing, but would some of these other guitarists be happy to be named as "shredders"?

Smile


I know that the term "shred" and "shredder" is much maligned and for a good reason, but what other term can we use to describe highly technical playing that includes blindlingly fast speed? "Fusion" isn't all that good of a word either. So many potential fans may get turned off when we describe Guthrie's music and playing as "shred" and "fusion". I think we need to come up with a new term for describing what someone like Guthrie does, but that's a tough one. Confused


How about "awesome" Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg wrote:
Got them yet Frankus? Question


Sorry for the delay Smile I've included the quirky descriptions.

Prashant Aswani - Tabla Jazzica Shred
Avenged Sevenfold - Gothpunk Shred
Children of Bodom - Church burning Shred
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Freepunk jazz in a straight jacket type shred.
Mattias Eklundh - Cyber Dali shred.
Christopher Godin - Moonpunk shred
Guthrie Govan - Jethro Moog Tull - shred
JoboJ (aka Joe Bochar) - Vai tronic funkateer shred
Johan - Compact metal maelstrom shred bonanza
Greg Koch - finger licking blues picking.
Shadows fall - Vintage distressed shred
Andy Timmons - Tasty wholewheat shred
3 inches of blood - Dagon slaying fantasy laden Midle Earth shred
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what would be "jethro moog tull" shred? Confused sorry, not familiar with that term and have no idea what that would mean.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's all a new breed of shred. Essentially, shred (God, I do hate that term!) takes backseat to the music on hand and complements the compositions and the musical content. It's a welcome trend but, obviously, some do it better than others because the ability to compose and arrange something that holds the listeners' attention is quite a gift in itself. I must say that I'm enjoying Joel Hoekstra's "The Moon Is Falling" quite a bit. Highly recommended.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shredrulez wrote:
what would be "jethro moog tull" shred? Confused sorry, not familiar with that term and have no idea what that would mean.


These are the descriptions in the Guitarist magazine, the editorial staff have a quirky sense of humour, and probably know Guthrie via sister magazine Guitar Technique, well enough to rag him or share an in joke. In the UK we've a scary woman called Gilly Goulden who basically raps free-form poetry of a pastoral theme inspired by food or drink. You might have heard of Pam Eyres.. it's like that but more upper class and less whimsical.. also Jilly doesn't work for MI5.. Pam did.



that's her standing next to the most dangerous shirt you could possibly look at if you're tripping Wink I think the guys at Guitarist were ripping off her style of obverse consumerist enthusiasm poetry.

Here's my interpretation of what hey wrote. It could be that Jethro Tull is an English phenomenom as the singer had a bad set of teeth Wink so you guys may be forgiven for overlooking them. I think (purely my perspective, here) it might mean Guthrie resembles Jethro Tull's Flute player Ian Anderson in an abstract sense... in the 60s:


I searched long and hard for an image that did kinda match. Loads of people in the UK misconceive Ian to be a guy called Jethro Tull. Jethro Tull was infact a tollpuddle martyr, so a historical figure the band was named after. Jethro Tull was famous for upholding a permissive view of short-bread that was frowned upon by the church. OK the last bit hasn't been proven yet.

The Moog reference is to do with this guy :



A shred guitar playing dog-like creature and long term side kick to Arthur the Caterpillar from the TV series "Willow the Wisp", The Moog's soaring shred solos broke the bad magic of Evil Edna, the witch.



Actually I'm lying. Willow the Wisp was a top notch TV show though. The Moog probably refers to the solos Guthrie cooks up that sound like the most adventurous prog rock synth solos (played on a Moog) distilled (and then some).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked So Guthrie was in it!! I was quite dissapointed that Bumbleffot wasn't in it after Frankus said he might well be, ah well at least Guthrie is there. Smile

Thanks for that Frankus.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Hmmmm......... what do you think?
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