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Sgt Baker
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 14 Location: Pittsburgh Pennsylvania USA
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: The Guthrie/Jesus connection |
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I showed a guitar student the video of Guthrie at the Cornford amp clinic and the kid said that it looked like Jesus playing the guitar! I told the kid that the guitarist was actually Guthrie Govan, but if Jesus was a guitar player they would probably play similar. |
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shredrulez Guest
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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ah, yes, guthrie... the savior of modern shred after the sins of the shrapnel era... |
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alexkhan
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2783 Location: Chino, CA
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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People of all ilk have mentioned this to me numerous times as well... _________________ Ed Yoon
Certified Guthrie Fan-atic
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sieuminh
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 25
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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So first it was Vai and Satch that should be worried, and now it's Mel Gibson's turn this chap Guthrie is making some enemies
In reality Jesus was most likely to be black or at least dark color, with black hair and eyes, since he was born in the Middle East. That European look was a Middle Age invention. The same way that all heros are Americans nowadays (in the Hollywood movies at least) |
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alexkhan
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2783 Location: Chino, CA
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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sieuminh wrote: | So first it was Vai and Satch that should be worried, and now it's Mel Gibson's turn this chap Guthrie is making some enemies
In reality Jesus was most likely to be black or at least dark color, with black hair and eyes, since he was born in the Middle East. That European look was a Middle Age invention. The same way that all heros are Americans nowadays (in the Hollywood movies at least) |
Really? Hmmm... I hadn't considered that. But didn't Jews back then have a white-ish appearance? I can understand that the European look was made up somewhat to fit the European church's way of thinking, but are there any links you could provide saying that Jesus could have been black or much dark color? _________________ Ed Yoon
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stratoskier
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 82 Location: Bozeman Montana
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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I have this eerie feeling that this is one of those threads that started innocently enough, but is about to morph into something else. You guys have fun now!
Bert |
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sieuminh
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 25
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: |
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I don't remember the exact name, but I saw it in a documentary, probably by the BBC. They did a model of the face based on some ancient skulls, and traced back the tribe that Jesus was in, or something like that, and decided that he was indeed dark color with black hair.
When the face was completed, with the skin and hair and everything, let me tell you it wasn't pretty
I'm not saying it takes anything away from his message of course. |
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frankus
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 1100 Location: Chelmsford/Arachnipus
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: |
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In the UK any caucasian with a beard and long hair is likely to be called Jesus. Guthrie has got ribbed about it even by Zack's dad, the guy in the front row about 4 chairs across (every show), and he's a really affable guy.
I went out for a meal with my ex co- workers from 2000 amongst other circles we're known as "the german, the nazi, the commie and jesus" I get to be Jesus.
At uni I got called Jesus and cut my hair cos I couldn't take the stigma(ta) _________________ Fabulous powers were revealed to me the day I held my magic Suhr(d) aloft and said "by the power of great scale!"
I have the power! |
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bill®
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 72
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Jesus was born a Palestinian, and thus would've had very dark skin. |
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alexkhan
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:05 am Post subject: |
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I always thought he was a Jew.
This thread won't disintegrate into something weird about religion or socio-politics. We GG fans know better. _________________ Ed Yoon
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frankus
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 1100 Location: Chelmsford/Arachnipus
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I can't remember if it was "On the Road" or "Myra Breckenridge" or "Graveyard for Lunatics" that had tales of the hollywood actor who played JC in the movies and how he exploited the position to bed teens and housewives and drunk himself silly. That's the hollywood image of JC
Sergeant Baker, are you gonna pummel us with your own philosophy? _________________ Fabulous powers were revealed to me the day I held my magic Suhr(d) aloft and said "by the power of great scale!"
I have the power! |
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Carlo
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 408
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be curious to see what Guthrie would look like with his head and beard shaved....we probably wouldn't recognize him |
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Alun
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 125 Location: Over Here
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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frankus wrote: | Sergeant Baker, are you gonna pummel us with your own philosophy? |
Good quote! The only bad thing is I now have to go and rummage through my box of tapes to listen to it
Alun _________________ www.alunvaughan.com |
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Sgt Baker
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 14 Location: Pittsburgh Pennsylvania USA
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think that Jesus can perform miracles, so if he wanted he could be like the guy in terminator 2 and clone himself into any image that he wanted, black, asian, white, samoan, or native american if he wanted. Jesus has mad chameleon skills.
not even guthrie govan possess that type of power.
On a serious Jesus note, I acutually read in a book one time that some ancient manuscripts said Jesus actully played some type of ancient lute before he preached and introduced modal playing. |
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bill®
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Modal music most definitely existed long before Jesus' time. I don't think he, or any one individual, 'introduced' it. |
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