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simo
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Location: australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: legato playing |
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i was just going to ask the great rick graham if he had any tips on his fantastic legato technique and some pointers for young players on how to nail this technique. thanks |
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j.s.bark
Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 130 Location: uk
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: legato playing |
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simo wrote: | i was just going to ask the great rick graham if he had any tips on his fantastic legato technique and some pointers for young players on how to nail this technique. thanks |
What I tend to do with legato playing is to divide up my practice time into the following:
1)play scales and sequences using standard legato(i.e. hammers AND pull offs)
2)play scales and sequences using hammer ons only(even when descending).
I feel that the most effective sounding legato is a successful combination of the two.
Also, be sure that you are exerting the exact amount of energy to produce a clear note. If you dont you are wasting valuable energy.
I hope that helps! _________________ Virtuosity is only useful when serving a musical purpose - J.S.BARK |
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Bode
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 53 Location: Noise Box
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:33 am Post subject: Re: legato playing |
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j.s.bark wrote: | 2)play scales and sequences using hammer ons only(even when descending).
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That's how Alan Holdsworth chooses to do as well if I'm not mistaken?
What seems to be the technique that you personally use more when descending...pull-offs or hammer ons? Just curious [/i] _________________
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j.s.bark
Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 130 Location: uk
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure exactly what holdsworth does but by watching vids of him play he seems to use much more of the hammers only approach. I haven't come across any teaching material by allan apart from the reh vid and he doesn't go into any technical detail in that.
I personally use more of the standard hammers and pulloffs, however I'm always working on getting the balance between the two. _________________ Virtuosity is only useful when serving a musical purpose - J.S.BARK |
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sumis
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 570 Location: gothenburg, sweden
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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j.s.bark wrote: | I'm not sure exactly what holdsworth does but by watching vids of him play he seems to use much more of the hammers only approach. I haven't come across any teaching material by allan apart from the reh vid and he doesn't go into any technical detail in that.
I personally use more of the standard hammers and pulloffs, however I'm always working on getting the balance between the two. |
+1 on that. i read in an old interview (gp 1990?) that he was striving towards hammering only, although that's not really realistic in practice, and that's not a perfect description of what he actually does.
i've seen allan live three times, very up close, and can attest that that is what he does more and more. first time i saw him (1992) you could still talk about technique. last time (2001) it would have been insulting to even think about his technique ... to me, allan is only music (like i'd ever be close to pull anything he does off!?).
btw: i'm pretty drunk, so i don't know if this makes sense, and i'll probably edit tomorrow.
and yes, rick: i hate you for your legato technique
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simo
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Location: australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: |
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would there be any websites or vids of players i can check out? |
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j.s.bark
Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 130 Location: uk
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: |
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sumis wrote: | and yes, rick: i hate you for your legato technique . |
It seems I'm getting more enemies than friends on these boards
Simo - there are loads of great players you could check out but try this guy. I think he's a fantastic player
www.lorenzovenza.com _________________ Virtuosity is only useful when serving a musical purpose - J.S.BARK |
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Tuddsound
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 30 Location: NY State, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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simo wrote: | would there be any websites or vids of players i can check out? |
Derryl Gabel has an excellent legato video out. Warning - it does require some serious fretting hand stretches though! I own his first video and will likely buy the second one as well. He's an amazing player and teacher.
There are video clips on his site. http://derrylgabel.com _________________ Paul Tauterouff
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Carlo
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 408
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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and of course, also check out Brett Garsed's intructional DVD (and his Rock Fusion tape if you can find it) |
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Tuddsound
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 30 Location: NY State, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Carlo wrote: | and of course, also check out Brett Garsed's intructional DVD (and his Rock Fusion tape if you can find it) |
I should have mentioned those too. I love them! Brett's another great player who is a great teaher as well. _________________ Paul Tauterouff
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simo
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Location: australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: legato |
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are there any certain parrterns you use to go across scale shapes? |
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simo
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Location: australia
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:46 am Post subject: |
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is there any certain exersise that would help me develope my legato?
anything? |
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Mirth
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 160 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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a quick vague answer is to be able to play anything you can with a pick or fingers with legato. Whether scales, arpeggions, pagannini or chords. I think it's all important. As far as patterns and pattern you can think of;
if two notes a string: 12, 13, 14, 23, 24, 34 try all accending desending forward and backwards.
If 3 notes: 123, 124, 134, 213, 214, 231, etc
4 notes: 1234, 4321, 1324 whatever combo through scales you can think of. Try it clean too, so you can here if the sound is even or not, the compression of distortion sometimes hides weaknesses.
cheers,
Tim _________________ www.timmirth.com
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