Guthrie Govan Discussion

[shapiro]

has anyone tabbed out the solos in the song Erotic Cakes? if not i guess i'll give it a shot.

[shapiro]

you guys make me do everything!

Heres my shot at it...ill post the powertab file if someone tells me where i can host it.

[Vai_disciple]

You can host for free at Rapidshare or Yousendit. excellent transription btw.
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[shapiro]

alright, here it is. I'm not sure about the bassline...I cant figure out how to make the first measure sound right. Then again maybe I've just listened to it 1000 times and it sounds wrong to me.

Also in the image i posted, there should be a tie from the last note in the 2nd measure to the first note in the 3rd. But that has been fixed in the powertab.

Enjoy
http://rapidshare.de/files/32914478/erotic_cakes.ptb.html

[carnflab]

buy the album

this is the demo version lol

good tab though

[shapiro]

i didnt get it yet! but i plan to.

edit-
ok. just ordered it so i dont forget again.
maybe ill have to tab out that version too

[Errock]

haha very nice tab

[carnflab]

does anyone have any tips of soloing over these changes, or can anyone analyse what scales guthries using here?

im not sure what notes to use.

[shapiro]

thats a really good question...hmm
anyone know?

[thelordofcheesecake]

[shapiro]

awesome. im curious as to how you figured that out because im trying to learn some more music theory

[art]

[shapiro]

Ahaaaa
Alright, thanks for explaining that for me. I wouldnt say I am completely new to music theory, but i am definitely just getting the hang of modes.

So correct me if I'm wrong,
Since min9 has
1 2 b3 5 b7
You need a scale that contains all those (a minor one)
So could you use natural minor, minor pentatonic, or dorian, since phrygian and lydian have a b2? And then the question is which one do you choose?

if guthries book talks about all of this then I think i will get it, I am really looking for a good way to learn all of this stuff and get more comfortable with it.

[art]

I fucked up a bit sorry, I said there were three in the Major modes, there aren't- I forgot about the 9. (Frankus probably saw my previous post, tutted and muttered 'noob' )

For major modes you could use Aeolian (minor) or dorian. As you mentioned you could strip away some notes and use the m.pentatonic.
With a chord like a min9 it's very common to use the additional notes from a whole bunch of scales, e.g. using the natural and flat 6ths, the flat 5th (blues scale).

Really its more like 'the notes that are really strong and you should include are the notes of the chord, use whatever the fuck else you like