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The Upcoming Guthrie Signature Modern
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alexkhan



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrary to popular belief, John Suhr and I do not consider Mahogany to be dark. Les Paul is often cited as being dark but that has more to do with the thickness of its body combined with the shorter scale length and its set-neck construction. Mahogany is more focused on mid-midrange while Alder has more low-mids and Swamp Ash has more high-mids. The tactile response characteristics between these three tone woods is quite different as well. Alder is smooth in its attack while Ash is snappy and tight while Mahogany sits somewhere in the middle.

I think Mahogany is a great all-around tone wood. On a 25.5" scale bolt-on guitar like this, we feel it gets a nice compromise between the traditional Gibson-type of sound and feel and the traditional Fender-type of sonic and tactile characteristics. And as Sumis pointed out, the Maple top extends the highs and lows on the body side and Pau Ferro will add more snappiness and quicker attack while adding more high-mids (but not as much high-end presence as Rosewood does). It really is an ideal combination of woods for versatility and for Guthrie's particular style.

This is going to be a rough generalization, but if we broke down how each type of wood contributes to the overall tonality of the guitar, this is how it would come out:

Body back: 45%
Body top: 5%
Neck wood: 25%
Fingerboard: 25%

Yes, the neck contributes at least 50% of the overall acoustic tone of the instrument. John thinks it may even be a little more - perhaps another 5% or so but not anymore than that. Obviously, on a Carve Top, the thicker top will contribute more to the overall sound - perhaps around 10% or a little more. The thickness of the body and/or neck will also affect the mix as well. John also feels that Flame Maple top sounds a little more even and tighter than Quilted Maple, so Guthrie and I decided that we may as well go for the optimum tone even if Quilted Maple has more of a visual wow factor and is more fun to look at.

This is going to be a killer guitar. I know that we've done a few Moderns so far with this wood combination but I hadn't had a chance to play one. It really is a nice amalgamation of Guthrie's various Suhr guitars (mainly the Cherry SB Mahogany Standard and the Mercedes Blue Modern) with a few new cool features that extend the versatility of the instrument. I really can't wait until Guthrie gets one in his hands! Very Happy
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sumis



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ed. informative as usual. Very Happy

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Skyth



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tnx Ed! I have learned something today again Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, we've decided to make the Elliptical neck shape a little thicker than the normal .780-.830. It'll be .800-.850. Also, since Guthrie now endorses Rotosound strings, this guitar will come strung with the Rotosound .010-.046 set and an extra packaged set will be included as well. Another little change is the push-push tone pot instead of push-pull to split the neck HB. The push-push definitely is easier to engage in middle of the action. Wink
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redhandedhaze



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pumped for this guitar--I've been thinking about getting a suhr for a long time and this may be just what I'm looking for
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RoryButler



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea whenabouts this guitar'll be coming out then?
It's definately gonna be on my list of guitars to get!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are introducing this guitar at NAMM next month. More details to come then. Two of the three prototypes that will be shown at NAMM will go to two dealers:

Tone Merchants in CA
www.tonemerchants.com

Matt's Music in MA
www.mattsmusic.com
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greenfingers



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexkhan wrote:
We are introducing this guitar at NAMM next month.


Will Guthrie be there for the grand unveiling ? It would be a good excuse for him to escape the inevitable cold weather that falls on the U.K at time of year. He could put it through it's paces better than anyone else in the world since it's designed for him ?

As a side note, Is it me, or do you find it really weird that it's Summer time in other parts of the world at Christmas.... Santa must get really hot in and Australia.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will there be any sneaky photos of one being built for all of us to drawl over?
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greenfingers



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang in there,... Only two weeks to go Mad . lots of things to look forward to coming from the Suhr team. I'm looking forward to seeing the lp style guitar there also unveiling. But the Guthrie axe sounds like its gona be a killer. A sneak peek would be just enough to stop me going mad with anticipation though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

see I'm not alone hear a little peak would not hurt would it? the LP style one will be amazing I started off playing a LP and a Suhr LP would just be amazing if it was 24 fret as well I'll eat whats left of the xmas tree
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pics appearing now of the GG Model:


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redhandedhaze



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful guitar!

Thanks for the pic--I can't wait for more
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MAXtheGuitarlover



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! This guitar is truely sexy! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pics are from Matt's Music, check out the video and pics of teh Suhr stand from the thread here: http://www.online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?t=3276&highlight=
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