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Will
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 89
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: 8 year old virtuoso....? |
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The drummer in my band sent me this. Its simply quite shocking.
This kid is apparently 8 yrs old. From what i can gather - most of what he plays is note-to-note Paul Gilbert stuff but still.... fucking excellent.
take a look!
https://home.comcast.net/~davidsole/8-year_old_virtuoso.wmv |
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Doctor Jazz
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm ... Interesting!
I love the way he wipes his nose on his forearm at the end of the solo.
Not even Guthrie does that! |
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Carlo
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 408
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:04 am Post subject: |
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damn, that's amazing for someone his age |
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alexkhan
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2783 Location: Chino, CA
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, that vid has been making the rounds all over the place. I hear he's acutally more like 12 or 13. Definitely quite impressive, but I think he needs to start listening to some Jimi, SRV, and Albert King. _________________ Ed Yoon
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bill®
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 72
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:18 am Post subject: |
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I hate to be the token naysayer, but that is SOFT-CORE compared to the footage of Bireli Lagrene as a kid on his DVD. Think a kid (of similar age) with technique of a much higher order, playing on an acoustic guitar, through changes, that can actually phrase. It's still obvious he's a kid, but it kind of set the bar for 'kids doing crazy shit on guitar' when I saw it. |
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kanak1911
Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 30 Location: A non-contiguos state
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Doctor Jazz wrote: | Hmmm ... Interesting!
I love the way he wipes his nose on his forearm at the end of the solo.
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LOL, I got a kick seeing that also
Well, from my point of view, he can out play my butt by leaps and bounds so there's nothing I can say. What I see is the future of this kid. He has lots of time to be able to refine his playing. When I see young kids like this jamming I just close myself in my music room, look to the heavens and yell "WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME!!!" |
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shredrulez Guest
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: |
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the kid can play for sure! but my thoughts are that there are probably a bunch who could play at that level at that age. there are so many classical prodigies we never hear about. ultimately it'll be all about what they do with the talent. |
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James W
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 191
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I guess its refreshing that he looks fairly normal (albeit a bit chubby but thats understandable) unlike that kid with ultra-long hair and dodgy teeth I saw over on the Steve Vai board... however repetious it was, I must admit I was entertained... if I was him I would move on the whole neo-classical thing ASAP...
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M@
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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YAWN!!!
I'm reminded of what Eddie Van Halen said once in a Guitar Player magazine in the 80's about "anyone can train a monkey to play fast" (or something like that).
Don't get me wrong, I admire the fact that he is so young and has demon chops and sure, the kid can play sweep arpeggios and scales, but his sound sux and he has no feel (no apologies). I agree with Ed's previous post, he should listen to some Jimi, SRV, and Albert King (and then some).
I bet his dad or older brother is a frustrated guitar player... _________________ "My day job feeds my family, my night gig feeds my ego!" |
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alexkhan
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2783 Location: Chino, CA
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I watched it once and won't watch it again. It's really more of a spectacle in the lines of "Ma, look what I can do!" than a genuine musical performance that really says anything. It's impressive that someone of his age can play like that, but as shredrulez pointed out, prodigies come and go. Saying something musically and communicating emotions and feelings are what matters in the end. I wish the kid luck and hope he also matures musically. _________________ Ed Yoon
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M@
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Yep... and to put this into a bit more perspective, I've seen kids younger than that play scale/arpeggio exercises/etudes on the piano with great aplomb.
I must admit though, that nose wiping technique is a definite winner!!!
_________________ "My day job feeds my family, my night gig feeds my ego!" |
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RD
Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 293
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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It's nice to get respect at such a young age.
However, I totally do not agree anymore with that old saying that you have to start at a young age to be any good. It really doesn't say that much when a kid does these things. Sure, he has physical talent; that's for sure. But I agree with Ed's last post; it will depend on his musical growth. |
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alexkhan
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2783 Location: Chino, CA
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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RD wrote: | It's nice to get respect at such a young age.
However, I totally do not agree anymore with that old saying that you have to start at a young age to be any good. It really doesn't say that much when a kid does these things. Sure, he has physical talent; that's for sure. But I agree with Ed's last post; it will depend on his musical growth. |
It does help to start early. It's good to have the motor skills and things like that engrained while one is young and still growing. I'm sure it helped Guthrie. Still, a lot of today's greatest players typically started in their early-to-mid teens (McLaughlin at 12, Vai and Satch at 14), so starting very early (especially on guitar) certainly isn't a prerequisite to becoming a good or great player. And there are instances of truly great players who started out fairly late: Holdsworth at 17 (although he had some woodwind training before then) and Tal Farlow at 21.
Also, physical skill on musical instruments doesn't deteriorate with age like it does with athletics. Of course, all physical skills eventually take a fall with age, but you look at the great classical and jazz virtuosos and they maintain their skills well through their 60's, even longer. _________________ Ed Yoon
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James W
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 191
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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I think most virtuosos develop their technique when they are young because young people have so much more spare time, which gradually decreases the older they get... but I don't think it has any overt ramifications on one's playing... i.e someone could develop early technically but not develop as a musician, whereas someone could develop late as a technician, but well, um... be very musical
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M@
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I also think there is a certain healthy "naivity" with youth... the feeling of being capable of anything! Also there is a certain creativity and recklessness/playfulness when learning as a kid. Of course, having plenty of spare time really helps too! Playing guitar sure beats mindless computer games or hanging out on the streets with gangs...
Cheers _________________ "My day job feeds my family, my night gig feeds my ego!" |
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