Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Narberth, PA
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject:
kikkan wrote:
hi guys!
im also trying to get "into" zappa at the moment. got the hot rats, wazoo stuff and the dvd-does humor belong in music(frankly, i diddt enjoy it that much, maby because i was looking after guitar and "advanced" zappa, but it was quite funny )
where can i find the best recording of "the black page"? and more of the rythmic advanced stuff.
I didn't like DHBIM either. It seems very dull and lackluster. Actually there aren't really any good Zappa DVDs/Videos out. Baby Snakes is almost great, but it gets bogged down with too much back stage antics and Bickford claymation.
The best, most accurate, TBP recording was released on a flexi-disk with Keyboard Magazine in 1987. It was performed by the synclavier, so its accuracy is guaranteed. It's very hard to find now, but if you're good on the torrent networks, there is/was a bootleg floating around with that track on it.
The album "Zappa In New York" features 3 separate performances of TBP: A drum solo (Terry Bozzio, for whom TBP was written), an ensemble performance after the drum solo by the band at that time, then "The Easy Teenage New York Version" played later. This is a great album for "the hard stuff too" as it features "Approximate/The Purple Lagoon" a pretty challenging piece and "Manx Needs Women".
For more of "the hard stuff" I'd recommend Roxy and Elsewhere (more in crazy odd time stuff, not as much polyrhythmic). Them or Us has some nice polyrhythmic stuff on it (mostly on Sinister Footwear), but Marqueson's Chicken is a good one too. FZ Meets the Mothers of Prevention has some cool hard stuff on it (Alien Orifice, What's New in Baltimore). Drowning Witch is nice for some cool pieces. And Studio Tan is also awesome for that stuff. Don't forget Sheik Yerbouti. And I'd also recommend Make a Jazz Noise Here -- probably some of the most accurate performances of any Zappa band, since '88 was such a killer band.
His orchestral and synclavier stuff (LSO, Yellow Shark, Civilization, Jazz From Hell) is pretty hard core too, but you'll have to decide if that's for you. _________________ Less ebay, more Mel Bay
Nightschool from Jazz from Hell is lush! I want to find a way of playing it on an acoustic a la Kaki King. _________________ Fabulous powers were revealed to me the day I held my magic Suhr(d) aloft and said "by the power of great scale!"
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