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alexkhan
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2783 Location: Chino, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:05 pm Post subject: Clip of Guthrie Searing in New Asia Album |
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Here is a clip from a section of a song called Gone Too Far from the new Asia album, "Silent Nation". I believe it's the outro section and Guthrie mixes in some very tasty phrasing, searing bends, and burning runs that never sound out of context of the music.
http://www.online-discussion.com/GuthrieGovan/Photos/GTF-Asia%20clip.mp3
Yeah, this is really commercial "adult rock" kind of stuff that we fusion/shred aficionados may sneer at, but Guthrie advised me that it's actually challenging to work out something like this because he has to figure out what fits and leave out the jazz notes (outside) and the "weird noises" that he normally favors. Say what you will about the music, but great playing however you look at it! Listen to the vibrato that I now find instantly recognizable as Guthrie's, the intonation on the bends and melodic phrasing. As I posted on another thread, I feel it serves as a good lesson on how to play in a more conventional mainstream pop/rock format. _________________ Ed Yoon
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alexkhan
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, does this guitar sound like a Les Paul or a Strat to you guys? _________________ Ed Yoon
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shredrulez Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:00 am Post subject: |
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alexkhan wrote: | BTW, does this guitar sound like a Les Paul or a Strat to you guys? |
that sounds like a strat to my ears, but what do i know? i do know that it's great playing!!!!! very sweet and feel-laden. i understand what you mean now about the phrasing and vibrato thing. guthrie could play the alphabet song and it'd sound awesome as far as i'm concerned. |
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alexkhan
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Come on, people! Let's hear some more comments about this solo! _________________ Ed Yoon
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kabuki
Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 105 Location: Verona, NJ
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Excellent! So much control and diversity the man has. _________________ ...the torch has been passed... |
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rjmmusic
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 6 Location: Carlsbad, CA
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:12 am Post subject: |
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As you're fond of saying, Ed, he's got a lot of "headroom" in his playing. It's all so technically perfect and it sounds like he's not even breaking a sweat. Love the vibrato, BTW. Best of all, he's playing well within the context of the song - very meoldic. |
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alexkhan
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2783 Location: Chino, CA
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:21 am Post subject: |
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rjmmusic wrote: | As you're fond of saying, Ed, he's got a lot of "headroom" in his playing. It's all so technically perfect and it sounds like he's not even breaking a sweat. Love the vibrato, BTW. Best of all, he's playing well within the context of the song - very meoldic. |
Ah, yes, the "headroom" factor in Guthrie's playing. If there is one thing that Guthrie does not have in his playing, it's that straining kind of thing you hear in other players trying real hard to play fast or get the notes in.
Some technically inclined players try to hammer in as many nails on a wooden board as fast as they can. So what do you have? A wooden board dotted with a bunch of nails. I tend to see Guthrie building a nice piece of furniture or a beautiful house with his tools and his "carpentry". _________________ Ed Yoon
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Carlo
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 408
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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thanks ed!
so much to learn from the man. |
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Donnie B.
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 101 Location: Chula Vista, CA
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Definately sounds like single coils. Wish they had the guitar a bit higher in the mix during the outro. Beautiful stuff though. Yeah, when Guthrie decides to step it up a notch in his runs it's sounds so effortless and it always fits what precedes it and what comes after. Never sounds like a stock fast lick thrown in. Some of his playing reminds me of Vinnie Moore. I haven't heard a lot of Vinnie but I remember a beautiful sense of melody and an effortless technique.
Thanks Ed.
Could this be.......... "The Suhr"? _________________ What would we all do without guitars............. take up knitting? |
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rjmmusic
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, I also vote that this is the famous Suhr we're hearing. The first solo sounds like the bridge pickup and the long second solo sounds like he switched to the neck. |
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alexkhan
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Guthrie advised me that the band had rented a '57 Goldtop Les Paul that EVH had used before for the sessions (another "Karma" guitar for sure ) and that he remembered using that guitar on this track. I asked him if he was sure that it was this LP on the solo and he advised me that he was quite sure that's what he used on this song. I told him, tonally, I hear Blackmore, Gilmour and a bit of Yngwie on this who are all Strat players. He said that he'll listen to it again and try to remember exactly what he used on this solo. _________________ Ed Yoon
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decatest
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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so effortless, he can can change his style so easily but like ed said, his vibrato is definately becoming a signiature |
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tafolla-howe-govan
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 101 Location: Good ole NC
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:33 am Post subject: |
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I just picked this album up, and Guthrie REALLY shines, there is some absolutely brilliant stuff here that yanks on all the emotional chains...I highly recommend listening to the solo in the song "I will be there for you". This guy is seriously from another universe |
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Mr C.
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 146 Location: Not behind Tesco's any more but still in in Whitstable
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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alexkhan wrote: | BTW, does this guitar sound like a Les Paul or a Strat to you guys? |
Sounds like a MK50 to me
PCx _________________ GoldFish Don't Bounce. |
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alexkhan
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Mr C. wrote: | alexkhan wrote: | BTW, does this guitar sound like a Les Paul or a Strat to you guys? |
Sounds like a MK50 to me
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Mr. Paul C himself! Welcome!
Yes, those are the juicy tones of the might MK50 for sure. I was listening to Guthrie play that amp in the studio during the Asia sessions and couldn't believe the juicy yet tight tones that he had coming out through the studio monitors. Did Guthrie pretty much stick with MK50 for the entire album? _________________ Ed Yoon
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