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AxeBox
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Parañaque, Philippines
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:01 am Post subject: IMPROVISING OVER SLASH CHORDS |
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Greetings. I was figuring out the changes to Ana Maria and encountered several slash chords.
How about the Ab/C and Bb/C in succession? Can you treat the Ab/C like a simple Ab whose bass note is its third? How about the D/C -- can that be treated as a simple A7?
Is there a way to play outside such chords?
It's funny, but I hear something else when these chords are played. It looks like an F natural minor can be played over the Ab/C-Bb/C chords, but I figured this out only by ear. Is there a simple way of determining the proper scale for such chords?
Thanks in advance. |
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vladorg
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 49 Location: Alexandria,VA
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi AxeBox,
Ab/C is pretty much what you thought an Ab with the 3rd in the bass and it also can be viewed as a Fm7 with the 5th in the bass.Bb/C I would consider the same as a Cm11 chord and together Ab/C and Bb/C are diatonic in Eb major,so you're rigt you could play F Dorian or Melodic Minor over them.D/C I consider as C Lydian chord voicing(like Cmaj7 with a 6th and a 9th and a raised 11th if you wish)and you can naturally play C lydian over it.Hope this helped,
Vlad |
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AxeBox
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Parañaque, Philippines
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, vladorg, I'll keep that in mind. I will be experimenting with your info as soon as I get the chance to. |
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russ
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Actually, the above mentioned Bb/C functions as a C dominant - it's actually a C11 without a 3rd. C = root Bb = b7 D = 9 F = 11.
All the soloing material that works over dominant chords will work here, including "outside" stuff, depending on what you're after. _________________ Russ
http://www.russletson.com |
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fusion58
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 119 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a slash chord concept which has always helped me:
There are basically four types of slash chords:
1) Incomplete extended chords.
Example: G/C = CMA9 with no third. (See the Bb/C example given by Russ also.)
2) Misspelled 7th chords.
Example: C/A = Ami7
3) Inversions.
Example: E/G# = E triad (first inversion)
4) Weird chords that are difficult to symbolize in a conventional way.
Example: C/C# = C(b9) [Sometimes subbed for C7(b9) ] |
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theox
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 2 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:51 am Post subject: |
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russ wrote: | Actually, the above mentioned Bb/C functions as a C dominant - it's actually a C11 without a 3rd. C = root Bb = b7 D = 9 F = 11.
All the soloing material that works over dominant chords will work here, including "outside" stuff, depending on what you're after. |
I'd say that F = 4 and call it a C9sus. But Bb/C is quite commonly used nowadays. |
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