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olivier castellat



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Guthrie are god ?? Reply with quote

omg , u guthrie , are the most talented guitarist and musician i have never heard , with shawn lane, but contrary of him
u make songs less hard to listen and more esthetics ,
u are the perfect mix of complexity and esthetic ,


i love u, u re god , however i'm atheist ,

musician , technic , u have all for u ,

sorry for my language, i'm french
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better English than my French Wink What tunes have you heard Olivier?
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olivier castellat



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a shame that one note is out of tune in Waves : a D# instead of a D at 2min09
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swampthang



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huh?! I can't hear that he's out of tune maybe you have more advanced ears or something but it sounds fine to me...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

olivier castellat wrote:
Thats a shame that one note is out of tune in Waves : a D# instead of a D at 2min09
Sad


Explain yourself Very Happy
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olivier castellat



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

o god , i was wrong ,
it's not a D# instead of a D
it's a F# instead of a F ,
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swampthang



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not really sure which phrase you mean but when I listen to that section, it doesn't sound wrong whichever note it is, perhaps Guthrie was going outside the scale he was playing at the time.

Im not under the perception that he is a blemish free, perfect guitar player (I know he's close!) but that would seem like something he would notice and record again or sort out during the mixing if it was the wrong note. He wouldn't want to make himself seem like a rookie player...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's Waves that was rerecorded on each pickup selection and then blended so if it's the wrong note it's the wrong note in several versions with different pickup settings.
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Resi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sounds like a tiny bit of outside playing to me... There are no wrong notes Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are no wrong notes on the guitar...

Just nice ones, Interesting ones..... and Nasty ones

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olivier castellat



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, it's not to play outside scale volontary ,
it's only one notes ,
maybe guthrie makes ofen one shot to record ,
i think that because he never plays the same solos in lives and in cd,
u can believe me, this note isn't volontary ,
and i'm sur that guthrie could be alow with me ^^
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He made the mistake (if indeed there is one) deliberately !

Just so people wouldnt think he was inhuman.. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

olivier castellat wrote:
no, it's not to play outside scale volontary ,
it's only one notes ,
maybe guthrie makes ofen one shot to record ,
i think that because he never plays the same solos in lives and in cd,
u can believe me, this note isn't volontary ,
and i'm sur that guthrie could be alow with me ^^


How would you know? I'm pretty sure of the opposite Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it silly that on the forum dedicated to one of the finest guitarplayers on the planet someone registers and in his first post declares Guthry holy and then starts a ridiculous argument about a "wrong note" as if he wrote Waves himself.
Whatever the note at around 2min10 may be, a chromatic passing tone or a scale switch or whatever, it sounds fine to me.
If Guthrie would only play "correct" diatonic notes he would be way less interesting musically that's for sure..in this genre there really is no right or wrong, only good music and not so good..
Given the fact that the guitarparts for EC were rerecorded several times you better believe that Guthrie intended 2min10 to sound the way it does Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

olivier castellat wrote:
no, it's not to play outside scale volontary ,
it's only one notes ,
maybe guthrie makes ofen one shot to record ,
i think that because he never plays the same solos in lives and in cd,
u can believe me, this note isn't volontary ,
and i'm sur that guthrie could be alow with me ^^

You know why I can't take that seriously? Because you're French.

Only joking, but not really.
At Guthrie's level, mistakes are rarely ever made, so I think on a record, it would be safe to say that mistakes are never made.
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