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olivier castellat
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: Guthrie are god ?? |
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omg , u guthrie , are the most talented guitarist and musician i have never heard , with shawn lane, but contrary of him
u make songs less hard to listen and more esthetics ,
u are the perfect mix of complexity and esthetic ,
i love u, u re god , however i'm atheist ,
musician , technic , u have all for u ,
sorry for my language, i'm french |
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frankus
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 1100 Location: Chelmsford/Arachnipus
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Better English than my French What tunes have you heard Olivier? _________________ Fabulous powers were revealed to me the day I held my magic Suhr(d) aloft and said "by the power of great scale!"
I have the power! |
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olivier castellat
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a shame that one note is out of tune in Waves : a D# instead of a D at 2min09
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swampthang
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 32
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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huh?! I can't hear that he's out of tune maybe you have more advanced ears or something but it sounds fine to me... |
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Rickh
Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 40 Location: Leeds - UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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olivier castellat wrote: | Thats a shame that one note is out of tune in Waves : a D# instead of a D at 2min09
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Explain yourself _________________ The more you learn the less you know |
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olivier castellat
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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o god , i was wrong ,
it's not a D# instead of a D
it's a F# instead of a F , |
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swampthang
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 32
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Im not really sure which phrase you mean but when I listen to that section, it doesn't sound wrong whichever note it is, perhaps Guthrie was going outside the scale he was playing at the time.
Im not under the perception that he is a blemish free, perfect guitar player (I know he's close!) but that would seem like something he would notice and record again or sort out during the mixing if it was the wrong note. He wouldn't want to make himself seem like a rookie player... |
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frankus
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 1100 Location: Chelmsford/Arachnipus
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's Waves that was rerecorded on each pickup selection and then blended so if it's the wrong note it's the wrong note in several versions with different pickup settings. _________________ Fabulous powers were revealed to me the day I held my magic Suhr(d) aloft and said "by the power of great scale!"
I have the power! |
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Resi
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 50
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Just sounds like a tiny bit of outside playing to me... There are no wrong notes _________________ Click to help |
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dreamfullofzen
Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 34
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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there are no wrong notes on the guitar...
Just nice ones, Interesting ones..... and Nasty ones
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olivier castellat
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 13
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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no, it's not to play outside scale volontary ,
it's only one notes ,
maybe guthrie makes ofen one shot to record ,
i think that because he never plays the same solos in lives and in cd,
u can believe me, this note isn't volontary ,
and i'm sur that guthrie could be alow with me ^^ |
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tweezeroo
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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He made the mistake (if indeed there is one) deliberately !
Just so people wouldnt think he was inhuman.. |
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Resi
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 50
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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olivier castellat wrote: | no, it's not to play outside scale volontary ,
it's only one notes ,
maybe guthrie makes ofen one shot to record ,
i think that because he never plays the same solos in lives and in cd,
u can believe me, this note isn't volontary ,
and i'm sur that guthrie could be alow with me ^^ |
How would you know? I'm pretty sure of the opposite _________________ Click to help |
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Tri_tone
Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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I find it silly that on the forum dedicated to one of the finest guitarplayers on the planet someone registers and in his first post declares Guthry holy and then starts a ridiculous argument about a "wrong note" as if he wrote Waves himself.
Whatever the note at around 2min10 may be, a chromatic passing tone or a scale switch or whatever, it sounds fine to me.
If Guthrie would only play "correct" diatonic notes he would be way less interesting musically that's for sure..in this genre there really is no right or wrong, only good music and not so good..
Given the fact that the guitarparts for EC were rerecorded several times you better believe that Guthrie intended 2min10 to sound the way it does |
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Righteous
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Washington
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: |
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olivier castellat wrote: | no, it's not to play outside scale volontary ,
it's only one notes ,
maybe guthrie makes ofen one shot to record ,
i think that because he never plays the same solos in lives and in cd,
u can believe me, this note isn't volontary ,
and i'm sur that guthrie could be alow with me ^^ |
You know why I can't take that seriously? Because you're French.
Only joking, but not really.
At Guthrie's level, mistakes are rarely ever made, so I think on a record, it would be safe to say that mistakes are never made. |
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